Fri, Apr. 18th, 2008, 05:46 pm
atord: which theories are there?
I want to study stenotyping, but I don't know where to research for which theories are the easiest to learn. Someone had said it is best to learn theory on your own, but is that the best way? I don't know where to look. Do they teach different theories in court reporting schools?
What I want to do is learn theory and then enroll in simplysteno.com, but I don't know where to look. Do I have to buy a book on a theory and teach myself how I would use it along with the stenotype? Or should I enroll in a cheap college, and after I learn a theory, I can enroll in simplysteno.com?
Sat, Apr. 19th, 2008 10:39 pm (UTC)
I know absolutely nothing about simplysteno.com, and I've only just started (all of three weeks ago) court reporting school. Which is to say, I have no meaninful direct knowledge on which to base the following comments, and am only repeating what I was told when I was doing due diligence on the profession and the training.
I called various CR agencies in my area (southern New England), and on one call happened to get connected to the agency owner (completely random, he just answered the phone; I've since learned he runs one of the largest and most lucrative agencies in my area). I asked him whehter anyone cared whether I attended an in-person school or an online program, and he was absolutely unequivocal: don't waste your time with CDs or online programs. You will never achieve the speed needed for certification without a structured program. Go to school, get licensed, and you'll earn at least $120K a year (actually, I offered the Bureau of Labor Statistics number of $60K/year and he said "you'll earn at least double that".)
Sun, Apr. 20th, 2008 03:35 am (UTC)
i earn more than $100,000 (Australian dollars) a year, and I taught myself at home.
i bought the Phoenix Theory materials, taught myself theory in about five months, speed-built over the next 1-2 years, and went straight into CR. while i was speedbuilding, i got a job as a scopist - that really helped consolidate my theory and gave me some insight into the software.
but i am definitely of the opinion steno can be learned on your own. i get really annoyed at all these agencies/schools/product sellers who insist it can only be done at a school/by outlaying tens of thousands of dollars. that is not true, and almost borders on being a scam. i taught myself, and i know others who have too. it's a unique skill which you either can do or you can't, so i don't think you should outlay a ridiculous amount of cash before establishing if it's actually going to be a viable career for you or not. and also, steno is such an individual pursuit, requiring so much discipline and constant development, that if you can't learn it without the help of a structured program, perhaps you don't have the necessary attributes to succeed at it...
i wish i had time to write more, but my baby is waking up! i wrote a big post a while ago in the memories section of this group a while back. i think it's under the "captioning" heading (i've been a stenocaptioner for the past four years). it might help you out.
Tue, Apr. 14th, 2009 05:36 am (UTC)
I am so pleased to read your message. I am planning to learn on my own too. I feel relieved to see that it can be done. If possible, could you tell me where you found the theory info ect? Thank you....
Sun, Apr. 20th, 2008 06:31 am (UTC)
I did one semester at a school. Financial problems got in the way of my continuing, but if I pick it up again I'll do it on my own.
It depends on your situation, of course. You'd need to know that you could and would take the time to do it by yourself at home. I think if I were living with kids, for example, I'd want to have a reliably quiet place where I could go to get into the habit of practicing.
In my case, though, I didn't take much from the classes that I hadn't already picked up from the course materials. I didn't dislike the classes; I just didn't feel that they were worth the cost. The book and CD spelled things out pretty well for me.
Sun, Apr. 20th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
There are more than a few theories to choose from. If I had it to do over again I would do it completely on my own. I went to a school that was not worth the cost of gas to get there. We were on our own anyway. Our theory "teacher" was a former student who had learned a different theory. I have heard horror stories from all over the country about so-called CR schools.
Ultimately you have to decide what will work for you, but it can be done much cheaper at home. I agree with the poster who said you have to be disciplined to do it at home...but you have to be disciplined to do it at school, too. I saw many students 'waste' money because they didn't take school seriously. My school ended up closing and most moved on from CR. I started up with SimplySteno and love it. It takes dedication and determination at-home or in a school. The outcome is up to you.
If you want suggestions about theories you can ask Marc at SimplySteno.com.
Good luck, whichever you decide.
Thu, May. 1st, 2008 10:50 pm (UTC)
I don't think one theory is better than another. I know I learned one theory but make up my own briefs and use briefs from other theories to help me. As long as you get a good foundation, you should be set. (I wouldn't pick up other theories until you had a great foundation first.)
I think it depends on you on whether to learn at home or at a school. I find that I am disciplined enough to learn from home but I also love my school. I have great teachers that push us and if they see that we are struggling try to figure out where we need to concentrate on.
I go to a community college and it is fairly cheap. I've never heard of simplysteno, but I'm sure if you have the discipline you will do fine.
Do they not teach you a theory?
Fri, May. 2nd, 2008 04:19 pm (UTC)
I have not yet went to a court reporting school. In simplysteno.com I am required to know a theory and type at least 60 wpm. So that is why I was asking that. I want to go somewhere online and learn how to type at 60 wpm.
Fri, May. 2nd, 2008 07:07 pm (UTC)
I learned steno and the book was quite straightforward and easy. I'm sure you can learn from a book. Is there not a college near you? I really do recommend it for motivation and support but if you have kids, I understand why you would prefer an online class. I think you can get a book on the Phoenix theory at Stenograph.com. I got my book on campus and don't find it online. Look on courtreportinghelp.com for classes.
Fri, May. 2nd, 2008 09:58 pm (UTC)
I actually found the book for sale on the StenEd Theory on the NRCA website.
Mon, Mar. 7th, 2011 08:10 pm (UTC)
Use the Magnum Steno Theory by Mark Kislingbury. He has a website that will teach it to you step by step for only 30 dollars a month.